1: So he did something really really bad, granted, but he does seem apologetic and trying to do what he can to fix it via the screenshots you shared. He’s Offering for you to tell him how he can fix it. We don’t see your response but it feels from one of those messages there is nothing he can do? And so now you are suing him when he already offered to make it right? Did you make an offer that he rejected privately? I’m kind of lost because it kind of seems he would be amicable to paying you privately and you decided to go this route instead. How is suing him going to make anything right in a way that he wasn’t already willing to do? This is missing here.
2: Also, there are several passages that seem needlessly conspiratorial and paranoid. You think he wanted your nudes to leak through this girl, who also clearly exposed the whole Lawrence southern situation, which was 10,000 times more interesting and what everyone else is actually talking about? I don’t see that substantiated here. You think he’s threatening to bully you legally, because he’s memeing on Hassan, who he has a long history and established hatred for? I don’t see it, especially with the screenshots you are showing of him genuinely being apologetic and offering to make it right. Do you have any screenshots or messages of him, threatening you? Do we have any reason to believe he’s upset with you or something outside of you NOW doing this? I think you’re entitled to something, but this seems weird to me.
But to be clear, yes destiny is a pathetic asshole for his relationship with this girl annd sharing other people’s private stuff with her. Frankly he’s genuinely retarded for it and as a fan, it reminds me how deeply flawed he in spite of how intelligent may seem.
With regards to (1): She clearly wants an official, public, legal recognition of his wrongdoing.
She likely wants this because one of the worse aspects of an experience like this is the way that, over time, everybody’s definition of what happened softens and mutates to make the whole thing seem like less of a whole thing. Right after it happens, it’s abuse, and people let you call it such. A few years down the line, it’s a dumb mistake that some dumb boy made.
If she wins a court case, it becomes harder to retcon what happened.
I don't think "dumb mistake that some dumb boy made" and "abuse" are mutually exclusive to one another, depending how you think about it. Not to say that he's low IQ or something, and not to say that we should infantilise either. This was clearly an abuse of her privacy while possibly a "dumb mistake" in that he might not have intended for the leak (and its consequences) to occur and thought it would be harmless (a selfish--and therefore immature--interpretation of a severe breach of trust). I remember having a conversation with my ex who I believe abused me (serial cheater, gaslit, compulsive liar, tried to cut down my self esteem) explain that she believed personal betrayals like these did no harm unless the person found out (I didn't grasp the foreshadowing at the time as we were talking about metaethics). Once she saw the harm she did to me the self-admonishment indicated to me that she would be learning from her foolishness for a long time. All this to say, sometimes people have very dysfunctional beliefs, and when people are intelligent, they can convince themselves of beliefs that encourage or excuse harmful behaviour, or sometimes they have avoided interrogating them long enough because there hasn't been a confirmation of risk (i.e. an obvious harm). I'm getting the impression that it could be this, but I'd need to learn more about what happened with these other girls. If this same kind of event had happened repeatedly then I would probably start thinking intent too. If it's not as clear cut as this on the other hand, I think court would just end up exposing Pxie to more trauma. If it were me, I'd show him the harassment I received and tell him some of the feelings I have when I read them, and I'd give him a $ number I think captures that hardship (and projected hardship) and see what happens.
On a separate note, deeply concerned to learn that he's got a thing for young girls, and it really is sad that he feels the need to impress them by sharing such personal content of others. Sounds like (intent or no) he has self-esteem issues.
it's really not hard to imagine why she'd want an actual court to verify her allegations. for starters, you could take a look at how you and a lot of other people are litigating her story right now.
And, I am very sorry to Pxie, which I'll write in a separate comment.
Because of how painful and public this all is it's not a huge jump to get paranoid/fearful.
But I think you are right that it's very unlikely that he wanted to mass distribute the nudes or to intimidate Pxie by joking about suing Hasan.
I get the impression that he is really sorry and since he can't undo his stupid action, he is struggling to figure out what he *can* do, beyond financial stuff.
I think in the part about him "downplaying" the issue, though it's probably not the best phrasing or approach, he was saying what he said to help assuage Pxie's fears, to help her feel better. That's how it reads to me at least.
Also - why is no one criticizing the appropriateness of the President Sunday vid? That's the reason this all came out, right?
Could this have come out in a way that wasn't so hyperbolized/sensationalized with a lot of baseless claims?
That video has created a gross storm of misinformation around this actually sensitive, acute issue that Pxie is experiencing.
P. Sunday has been a long-time hater of Dest and DGG and the video is trash.
That being said, yes what he did is shitty really fkn disappointing.
Him purposely sharing the sex-tape to the alleged discord kitten so that she could spread them around and he can have plausible deniability is far-fetched because Pixie's thing is just one of the dozens of embarrassing stuff that got leaked to the public.
The intention of the leaks was primarily to embarrass Destiny and the leaks included him confessing to embarrassing things among other things. I think this is truly a lapse in judgment and self-sabotaging behavior. Especially from someone who should know better. He may have thought this getting leaked to the public would be a rare possibility, and the rare possibility did come to fruition.
That being said, there is no defense for sharing someone's nudes non-consensually.
Giving someone (apparently a 19 y.o. e-girl nonetheless??) material (in fact a whole library of porn) i.e. Leaking to them knowing they can further leak it to more people is the same as leaking it. And Destiny being upset people are semantically calling that an intentional leak shows laughable stupidity. It was intentional, and he is the source for all bad things now being out on the internet forever. He needs to grow up. No ghost possessed him to be the initial leaker against his own free will knowing he can't prevent the future and that the leaked material once sent to any one random person can then go anywhere.
Destiny in his inability to feel compassion and empathy has turned into a hollow figure especially considering what he's capable of doing to his closest friends and relations without second thought. He needs to seriously reflect on this dark shit. He takes it lightly and without much accountability which is part of the problem. It's not light at all. And he knows its not light shit by the fact that his relationships with morally better people have soured, but at the same time he sees this as drama worthy of memory holing(?). The very problem Pxie correctly identified and is trying to solve. It's sad that you have to hurt people with power where it hurts most so they feel it, while the victim shouldn't be the one whose hurt at all for doing the right thing.
Also I love how the mentality of people is that if Destiny has enough money he can simply pay you out and that absolves horrible people, how rich they are, which Destiny will never feel in his pocket. If you poor good luck with jail I guess and really feeling consequences more than some rich asshole performing a payout. I'm grossed out.
I don’t know Pxie at all. I’m a small person with a small opinion. But I’ll speak as if I speak to some made up image of you. I get your feelings about what to do are complex. But I also feel anyone being made afraid to ever talk about this forever and ever is a bad thing ( it creates bad precedent), especially if something worse happens to another woman or person in future. I don't trust that Destiny is not capable. I don't trust him at all in fact given evidently deep fargone habits.
As far as making destiny really feel something other than an inconvenience that is obviously the choice. You are right to want to make Destiny feel any sort of culpability to never do this again. That's a good impulse. It is either you do that or you don't. You'll be seen as getting revenge in either case by stupid people whether or not you get vigilante justice or court justice to make Destiny feel something. I don't disagree with that and I think it is dumb people disagree with the very principle. The fact that Destiny is upset about this very impulse shows he doesn’t want to lose much because he doesn’t believe he should lose much for this, and didn’t do much actually, and shouldn’t be given a penance so hard for this that he never considers doing anything so unscrupulous again. I love how this is labelled as revenge, pursuing any materially real justice I guess. The gaslighting begins. The twisting in real time of situational context by people begins.
Feel 0 shame Pxie. The people who are clear eyed know what’s up. At least on the character of Destiny and what he really deserves. You didn’t perform any crimes despite a couple of people intent on making you feel like you did. The consequences shouldn't be on you but on Destiny. I don't believe they will. But bad actors exist who might spread this shit and news about you unscrupulously. They might see you as Destiny’s object that can be silenced. Those bad actors will have a harder time building such a gross case anyway if they see you tried to bring Destiny to justice.
You DESERVE peace of mind, Pxie.
I used to watch Destiny and I saw the good in him, with the bad sure, but not anything to this extent. Unsure what else to say. Rant over.
Really well said, thank you. I hope A LOT of men read your comment & reflect not only on their own words & deeds but also those of the men around them.
It's not women to solve this. Just as it's not on black & asian people to solve racism.
It's crazy that none of you seem to understand the psychology around trying to make someone "suffer' whether it be financially or otherwise. It's not going to help you feel better. Do what only you can do, Focus on yourself, Work on yourself, these things take time, not blood.
Pxie, I don't know you but I want to send you words of encouragement to stay strong. I know that this is extremely fucked up. I hope you continue down this legal avenue and I hope you don't kill yourself. I'm a female viewer in this political space and your voice/insights/arguments have been so entertaining to watch. This is a huge fucking shitshow for sure, but you're not over. Don't give up. Give them hell.
Wait, is that true? Did she make those sorts of arguments? Because if so, that changes everything! Its still scumy on tiny's part but atleast somewhat justifiable (as in, him thinking she wouldnt care if he shared it due to past arguments they had had. Not great but not as bad as the meta is right now)
It was not only hers that got leaked. It's not justified by anything about the victim. There have been several victims at this point and people make disingenous criticisms of each of them just like this
When I initially heard about the leaks, I was enraged. Whether or not it was revenge or not, he still sent those non-consensually. I secretly hoped that someone would actually sue him and hold him accountable. So thank you for that, and thank you for your sacrifice. It was clear to me that it broke laws. Good luck, I hope everything goes smoothly.
And just know that the majority of normal society doesn't give a shit about someone's leaked nudes. I didn't look at Drakes leaks, Bezo's leaks, nor yours. Only kiwifarm freaks like to look up that kind of stuff. Respectable people are empathetic about this kind of thing happening, and won't hold it against you.
Just wanted to add: I don't want to discount your situation with my comment above. I'm sure it's a shitty, dirty feeling to have your privacy violated like this. And that sucks. Wish you strength to face that.
As other women have commented here, I am so deeply sorry you have to endure this. Your bravery in this is astounding and it's women like you, brave enough to speak up, that help other women do the same. DGG is not a safe place for women. I can't imagine the amount of harassment you are receiving right now and Destiny absolutely deserves his reputation ruined and his career over. I don't know you, but I'm with you Pxie. my discord handle is messi2619 if you need a sister to help you get through this.
I don't think men understand how damaging something like this is for women. Especially for Pxie bc she grew up in a more conservative hispanic household. People get killed for doing shit like this to women where I'm from.
because it's not ever the victims place to dole out justice to the accused. I don't care about destiny's actions in and of themselves when I'm commenting here. I care about the mental spiral that pxie is in that's being clearly egged on by every destiny hater on the planet. grow up or try to look at this with *actual* empathy, instead of a hate/revenge boner.
Nobody is telling her to retaliate in like. That would be revenge. She wants to pursue legal justice for a crime which HE DID in fact commit. Idk how that's a revenge boner. Maybe place yourself in her shoes (the actual definition of empathy) and realize that her privacy was violated.
You might want to look into the situation more before you go off like this. There are multiple screenshots of her talking about how she wishes him to suffer in the biggest way possible so that he remembers how bad what he did was. Which is not her place to be deciding the limits of, IMO she should be as hands-off as possible in this case if she genuinely values her mental well-being. It's going to be enough hardship just as a matter of the process. It's like saying "put yourself in the shoes of someone who's mum just got murdered" of course I understand the desire to go out and make the person who did it suffer but that doesn't mean I would condone going out and doing that. I would recommend that they focus on grieving as much as they can while providing whatever information their legal team or whoever's handling it needs.
As a destiny viewer this is insane. I thought the leaks happened due to hacking or something. I didn't know he shared those videos with other people.
Won't be watching him anymore. I can't listen to him calling other streamers/pundits "subhuman fucks" for lying or doing propaganda when this is the type of shit he does.
Hopefully you get justice and make an example out of him.
I'm sorry Pxie. You feeling scared, awful, betrayed, disgusted and more is all valid.
As a random internet person who has read several pages on this now, I've seen that you wanted to escape from the overwhelmingness of it all and that is understandable, but I really hope you don't do that. You are worth so much and I always thought you were a cool addition to the content bubble.
It's so not your fault that you trusted someone and that you were taken advantage of.
And I'm extra sorry to hear people have been abusing you (I'm assuming by saying shitty things via text?) as an extension of this already traumatizing situation.
You will overcome this, and holding him to account is an intimidating but important goal.
Why do you keep saying sexual abuse? Did someone sexually abuse you as a result of this, because if they did that’s absolutely terrible. But if it’s just your nudes being leaked calling it “sexual abuse” is laying it on a little thick especially when there are people who are actual victims of sexual abuse. And I remember you saying in a podcast that you grew up EXTREMELY WEALTHY. why are you trying to get other people to crowdfund your legal defense? Bet you won’t be sharing that bankroll when you win the case. This is how the rich stay rich bruv. You hard working minimum wage employee help me fund my legal issues by the sweat of your brow all because I wrote a salient article painting myself as a victim. And I the jobless trust fund baby will thank you as I buy a house with the fruits of said victory. Because the first step in fighting injustices is obviously to go seeking profit in the face of it
Sexual abuse is an umbrella term which will include all transgressions relating to sex. Revenge porn will be included in that. Being from a wealthy family doesnt mean she has access to a spare 10k. You seem incredibly spiteful and have ignored the clearly laid out actions Destiny took that ended with leaks of pxie's nudes. Why cant you hold him accountable?
Hey unhinged Ioser, how many people are you going to comment this same copy and pasted “whataboutism” remark to, pathetic tiny simp? I know this might be hard for some sub 40 lQ npc to understand… but someone having an opinion doesn’t justify them being victimized. Yikes, what a creepy weirdo.
While I agree with some of what you're trying to put across I think your approach and language aren't very ... Shall we say... Rhetorically effective here. Or empathetic.
As a Destiny fan I don't think your in the wrong for hurting him for this. He's not wrong that this isn't a big deal. (Just my opinion btw don't get mad) therefore you hurting his career isn't a big deal. And you can tell him that and say too bad you didn't care about me at the time you shared that. So I'm gonna share this.
Crazy every one of destiny's enemies and right wingers gets away with worse stuff. Destiny is gonna hate that but yea he's gonna be judged fairly for this one
You’re. And Destiny is a clandestine right winger, that’s why most of his collabs are with right wingers, that’s why he donates to the police. He has been hand picked by the right, to discredit liberals.
That sentence doesn't even make sense. Why would that cause any difference in how somethings bad. Kids are disproportionately killed in school shootings in teachers you think people don't care about kids dying then?
Destiny was also leaked in this and i don't care that he was. When that's more rare. So how about it's just not a big deal until other people make a bid deal about it.
Jay walking is a crime, so what? If the leak hadnt happened, how bad would destiny sharing the nudes without consent be? To me it would be not that big of a deal, just one more person who has seen me naked, big woop. The problem is that it did get leaked, and now there is real harm which has been caused due to Destiny's actions. That is the issue. That being said, its hard for me to completely blame Destiny for it since he is also a victom of the leaks. Destiny clearly did something bad, but from his perspective (of someone who doesn't really care about nude leaks) its not that big of a deal. Obviosly from pxie's perspective it IS a big deal. There is nothing wrong with either perspective, its all personal opinion on whether something is or is not important. The aggresion isnt the sending of nude photos, it is the violation of pxie's consent. That is what is bad. Just how Destiny doesn't care about cheating, that doesnt mean his partners wont care about it, and to do so would be a violation of their trust and consent.
Basically its not a big deal, in this person perspective, to have nude pictures of yourself online, or shared with others (that is a personal opinion anyone can have). What we would all agree on is that the violation of trust and consent IS a big deal.
Pixie even agreed it wasn't a big deal at first in the logs destiny sent. There's not much reprocussion to it. I knew a girl in high school that got her sticking a screw driver in her leaked to the whole high school. She is doing just fine and I would never judge her for that. She had something terrible happen to her.
Destiny didn't share it to everyone he shared it to one person that got her account hacked. It's not like he purposefully showed it to everyone like the guy in my high school did.
It's not a big deal but neither is losing your youtube channel if your going to be this like uncaring about pixie. She is allowed to not care about destiny. But again he didn't mean for it to leak to everyone. So he's not evil just needs to grow.
He's a sick, sick man. He's talked about choking out his ex on stream. Groped a girl on camera who clearly was uncomfortable with it and asked him repeatedly to stop to no avail. Had sex with his ex-wife in the next room to her then 19 year old boyfriend while he was listening to it and coping to chat, Destiny was 30+ at the time and was visiting them because she was a fangirl who sent him lewds on instagram. Leaked nudes of a 16 year old girl to his chat. And defended another streamer for hooking up with under 18's and said it was natural to want to have sex with 14 year olds...
This is the guy you chose to have sex with, so a part of me is not sympathetic at all. But another part of me want you to bring him to justice in the harshest way possible. He is a proven and self-admitted abuser, predator and pedophile and he belongs behind bars.
Melina was in and open relationship why didn't you include that. You just made fun of a consensual scenario... aren't the others bad enough why add a lie??
As far as I know, she was repeatedly physically abusive and he was trying to get her to stop.
"Groped a girl on camera who clearly was uncomfortable with it and asked him repeatedly to stop to no avail"
Yes, this was bad. He said it was bad. The person involved in this has said everything is fine now and she wishes people would stop bringing it up. It was also like 12 years ago.
"Had sex with his ex-wife in the next room to her then 19 year old boyfriend while he was listening to it and coping to chat,"
They were in an open relationship. She chose to leave him for Destiny. What part of this is Destiny's fault?
"Leaked nudes of a 16 year old girl to his chat"
They were not nudes. He was showing pictures of a girl in a bikini who was trying to hook up with him (yknow, someone he didn't do anything with because they were under 18). Stupid to share pictures at all, sure, but what you're claiming is wrong.
"And defended another streamer for hooking up with under 18's and said it was natural to want to have sex with 14 year olds"
I don't think this happened, or if it did, you're misinterpreting and misrepresenting what was said.
Now, that out of the way, sharing someone else's nudes without consent is bad. Can we just stay with the truth, and say what we know he did do is bad, and he deserves repercussions for his behavior?
Mr. Girl was right?!
Not surprising to anyone paying attention and I say that as someone who likes Destiny's content.
always was
No, mrgirl was implicating significantly worse things than this is.
Mr. Girl is a pedo creep why even mention him
You are brave for doing this- the silence from many has been deafening. Thank you and good luck.
1: So he did something really really bad, granted, but he does seem apologetic and trying to do what he can to fix it via the screenshots you shared. He’s Offering for you to tell him how he can fix it. We don’t see your response but it feels from one of those messages there is nothing he can do? And so now you are suing him when he already offered to make it right? Did you make an offer that he rejected privately? I’m kind of lost because it kind of seems he would be amicable to paying you privately and you decided to go this route instead. How is suing him going to make anything right in a way that he wasn’t already willing to do? This is missing here.
2: Also, there are several passages that seem needlessly conspiratorial and paranoid. You think he wanted your nudes to leak through this girl, who also clearly exposed the whole Lawrence southern situation, which was 10,000 times more interesting and what everyone else is actually talking about? I don’t see that substantiated here. You think he’s threatening to bully you legally, because he’s memeing on Hassan, who he has a long history and established hatred for? I don’t see it, especially with the screenshots you are showing of him genuinely being apologetic and offering to make it right. Do you have any screenshots or messages of him, threatening you? Do we have any reason to believe he’s upset with you or something outside of you NOW doing this? I think you’re entitled to something, but this seems weird to me.
But to be clear, yes destiny is a pathetic asshole for his relationship with this girl annd sharing other people’s private stuff with her. Frankly he’s genuinely retarded for it and as a fan, it reminds me how deeply flawed he in spite of how intelligent may seem.
With regards to (1): She clearly wants an official, public, legal recognition of his wrongdoing.
She likely wants this because one of the worse aspects of an experience like this is the way that, over time, everybody’s definition of what happened softens and mutates to make the whole thing seem like less of a whole thing. Right after it happens, it’s abuse, and people let you call it such. A few years down the line, it’s a dumb mistake that some dumb boy made.
If she wins a court case, it becomes harder to retcon what happened.
I don't think "dumb mistake that some dumb boy made" and "abuse" are mutually exclusive to one another, depending how you think about it. Not to say that he's low IQ or something, and not to say that we should infantilise either. This was clearly an abuse of her privacy while possibly a "dumb mistake" in that he might not have intended for the leak (and its consequences) to occur and thought it would be harmless (a selfish--and therefore immature--interpretation of a severe breach of trust). I remember having a conversation with my ex who I believe abused me (serial cheater, gaslit, compulsive liar, tried to cut down my self esteem) explain that she believed personal betrayals like these did no harm unless the person found out (I didn't grasp the foreshadowing at the time as we were talking about metaethics). Once she saw the harm she did to me the self-admonishment indicated to me that she would be learning from her foolishness for a long time. All this to say, sometimes people have very dysfunctional beliefs, and when people are intelligent, they can convince themselves of beliefs that encourage or excuse harmful behaviour, or sometimes they have avoided interrogating them long enough because there hasn't been a confirmation of risk (i.e. an obvious harm). I'm getting the impression that it could be this, but I'd need to learn more about what happened with these other girls. If this same kind of event had happened repeatedly then I would probably start thinking intent too. If it's not as clear cut as this on the other hand, I think court would just end up exposing Pxie to more trauma. If it were me, I'd show him the harassment I received and tell him some of the feelings I have when I read them, and I'd give him a $ number I think captures that hardship (and projected hardship) and see what happens.
On a separate note, deeply concerned to learn that he's got a thing for young girls, and it really is sad that he feels the need to impress them by sharing such personal content of others. Sounds like (intent or no) he has self-esteem issues.
Yeah, that's how time and forgiving works buddy
He shared private intimate recordings for as part of a sex resume and then these get leaked to multiple different people. Would you forgive that?
Convincing yourself someone didn't do what they did—or that it wasn't as bad as it was—is not forgiveness.
it's really not hard to imagine why she'd want an actual court to verify her allegations. for starters, you could take a look at how you and a lot of other people are litigating her story right now.
I pretty much agree with your entire take.
And, I am very sorry to Pxie, which I'll write in a separate comment.
Because of how painful and public this all is it's not a huge jump to get paranoid/fearful.
But I think you are right that it's very unlikely that he wanted to mass distribute the nudes or to intimidate Pxie by joking about suing Hasan.
I get the impression that he is really sorry and since he can't undo his stupid action, he is struggling to figure out what he *can* do, beyond financial stuff.
I think in the part about him "downplaying" the issue, though it's probably not the best phrasing or approach, he was saying what he said to help assuage Pxie's fears, to help her feel better. That's how it reads to me at least.
Also - why is no one criticizing the appropriateness of the President Sunday vid? That's the reason this all came out, right?
Could this have come out in a way that wasn't so hyperbolized/sensationalized with a lot of baseless claims?
That video has created a gross storm of misinformation around this actually sensitive, acute issue that Pxie is experiencing.
P. Sunday has been a long-time hater of Dest and DGG and the video is trash.
That being said, yes what he did is shitty really fkn disappointing.
Him purposely sharing the sex-tape to the alleged discord kitten so that she could spread them around and he can have plausible deniability is far-fetched because Pixie's thing is just one of the dozens of embarrassing stuff that got leaked to the public.
The intention of the leaks was primarily to embarrass Destiny and the leaks included him confessing to embarrassing things among other things. I think this is truly a lapse in judgment and self-sabotaging behavior. Especially from someone who should know better. He may have thought this getting leaked to the public would be a rare possibility, and the rare possibility did come to fruition.
That being said, there is no defense for sharing someone's nudes non-consensually.
Can you tap dance any harder?
He's downplaying and trying to buy her silence. That's manipulation 101. He doesn't truly care about her.
Dear strategic Destiny defenders,
Giving someone (apparently a 19 y.o. e-girl nonetheless??) material (in fact a whole library of porn) i.e. Leaking to them knowing they can further leak it to more people is the same as leaking it. And Destiny being upset people are semantically calling that an intentional leak shows laughable stupidity. It was intentional, and he is the source for all bad things now being out on the internet forever. He needs to grow up. No ghost possessed him to be the initial leaker against his own free will knowing he can't prevent the future and that the leaked material once sent to any one random person can then go anywhere.
Destiny in his inability to feel compassion and empathy has turned into a hollow figure especially considering what he's capable of doing to his closest friends and relations without second thought. He needs to seriously reflect on this dark shit. He takes it lightly and without much accountability which is part of the problem. It's not light at all. And he knows its not light shit by the fact that his relationships with morally better people have soured, but at the same time he sees this as drama worthy of memory holing(?). The very problem Pxie correctly identified and is trying to solve. It's sad that you have to hurt people with power where it hurts most so they feel it, while the victim shouldn't be the one whose hurt at all for doing the right thing.
Also I love how the mentality of people is that if Destiny has enough money he can simply pay you out and that absolves horrible people, how rich they are, which Destiny will never feel in his pocket. If you poor good luck with jail I guess and really feeling consequences more than some rich asshole performing a payout. I'm grossed out.
I don’t know Pxie at all. I’m a small person with a small opinion. But I’ll speak as if I speak to some made up image of you. I get your feelings about what to do are complex. But I also feel anyone being made afraid to ever talk about this forever and ever is a bad thing ( it creates bad precedent), especially if something worse happens to another woman or person in future. I don't trust that Destiny is not capable. I don't trust him at all in fact given evidently deep fargone habits.
As far as making destiny really feel something other than an inconvenience that is obviously the choice. You are right to want to make Destiny feel any sort of culpability to never do this again. That's a good impulse. It is either you do that or you don't. You'll be seen as getting revenge in either case by stupid people whether or not you get vigilante justice or court justice to make Destiny feel something. I don't disagree with that and I think it is dumb people disagree with the very principle. The fact that Destiny is upset about this very impulse shows he doesn’t want to lose much because he doesn’t believe he should lose much for this, and didn’t do much actually, and shouldn’t be given a penance so hard for this that he never considers doing anything so unscrupulous again. I love how this is labelled as revenge, pursuing any materially real justice I guess. The gaslighting begins. The twisting in real time of situational context by people begins.
Feel 0 shame Pxie. The people who are clear eyed know what’s up. At least on the character of Destiny and what he really deserves. You didn’t perform any crimes despite a couple of people intent on making you feel like you did. The consequences shouldn't be on you but on Destiny. I don't believe they will. But bad actors exist who might spread this shit and news about you unscrupulously. They might see you as Destiny’s object that can be silenced. Those bad actors will have a harder time building such a gross case anyway if they see you tried to bring Destiny to justice.
You DESERVE peace of mind, Pxie.
I used to watch Destiny and I saw the good in him, with the bad sure, but not anything to this extent. Unsure what else to say. Rant over.
Really well said, thank you. I hope A LOT of men read your comment & reflect not only on their own words & deeds but also those of the men around them.
It's not women to solve this. Just as it's not on black & asian people to solve racism.
It's crazy that none of you seem to understand the psychology around trying to make someone "suffer' whether it be financially or otherwise. It's not going to help you feel better. Do what only you can do, Focus on yourself, Work on yourself, these things take time, not blood.
Pxie, I don't know you but I want to send you words of encouragement to stay strong. I know that this is extremely fucked up. I hope you continue down this legal avenue and I hope you don't kill yourself. I'm a female viewer in this political space and your voice/insights/arguments have been so entertaining to watch. This is a huge fucking shitshow for sure, but you're not over. Don't give up. Give them hell.
Wait, is that true? Did she make those sorts of arguments? Because if so, that changes everything! Its still scumy on tiny's part but atleast somewhat justifiable (as in, him thinking she wouldnt care if he shared it due to past arguments they had had. Not great but not as bad as the meta is right now)
It was not only hers that got leaked. It's not justified by anything about the victim. There have been several victims at this point and people make disingenous criticisms of each of them just like this
When I initially heard about the leaks, I was enraged. Whether or not it was revenge or not, he still sent those non-consensually. I secretly hoped that someone would actually sue him and hold him accountable. So thank you for that, and thank you for your sacrifice. It was clear to me that it broke laws. Good luck, I hope everything goes smoothly.
And just know that the majority of normal society doesn't give a shit about someone's leaked nudes. I didn't look at Drakes leaks, Bezo's leaks, nor yours. Only kiwifarm freaks like to look up that kind of stuff. Respectable people are empathetic about this kind of thing happening, and won't hold it against you.
Just wanted to add: I don't want to discount your situation with my comment above. I'm sure it's a shitty, dirty feeling to have your privacy violated like this. And that sucks. Wish you strength to face that.
Word is the leak took place before the law she cited took effect. Doesn't look like any laws were broken...
The law came into effect in 2022..?
No way, is that true? Oh fuck
As other women have commented here, I am so deeply sorry you have to endure this. Your bravery in this is astounding and it's women like you, brave enough to speak up, that help other women do the same. DGG is not a safe place for women. I can't imagine the amount of harassment you are receiving right now and Destiny absolutely deserves his reputation ruined and his career over. I don't know you, but I'm with you Pxie. my discord handle is messi2619 if you need a sister to help you get through this.
I don't think men understand how damaging something like this is for women. Especially for Pxie bc she grew up in a more conservative hispanic household. People get killed for doing shit like this to women where I'm from.
not sure you understand how damaging it is either....do you think they *should* be getting killed?
They didn't say that? You keep missing the point of all this commenters and seem to be more concerned w them than w destiny's actions.
because it's not ever the victims place to dole out justice to the accused. I don't care about destiny's actions in and of themselves when I'm commenting here. I care about the mental spiral that pxie is in that's being clearly egged on by every destiny hater on the planet. grow up or try to look at this with *actual* empathy, instead of a hate/revenge boner.
Nobody is telling her to retaliate in like. That would be revenge. She wants to pursue legal justice for a crime which HE DID in fact commit. Idk how that's a revenge boner. Maybe place yourself in her shoes (the actual definition of empathy) and realize that her privacy was violated.
You might want to look into the situation more before you go off like this. There are multiple screenshots of her talking about how she wishes him to suffer in the biggest way possible so that he remembers how bad what he did was. Which is not her place to be deciding the limits of, IMO she should be as hands-off as possible in this case if she genuinely values her mental well-being. It's going to be enough hardship just as a matter of the process. It's like saying "put yourself in the shoes of someone who's mum just got murdered" of course I understand the desire to go out and make the person who did it suffer but that doesn't mean I would condone going out and doing that. I would recommend that they focus on grieving as much as they can while providing whatever information their legal team or whoever's handling it needs.
Nah this Destiny guy is too horny he needs to be LOCKED UP
As a destiny viewer this is insane. I thought the leaks happened due to hacking or something. I didn't know he shared those videos with other people.
Won't be watching him anymore. I can't listen to him calling other streamers/pundits "subhuman fucks" for lying or doing propaganda when this is the type of shit he does.
Hopefully you get justice and make an example out of him.
I'm sorry Pxie. You feeling scared, awful, betrayed, disgusted and more is all valid.
As a random internet person who has read several pages on this now, I've seen that you wanted to escape from the overwhelmingness of it all and that is understandable, but I really hope you don't do that. You are worth so much and I always thought you were a cool addition to the content bubble.
It's so not your fault that you trusted someone and that you were taken advantage of.
And I'm extra sorry to hear people have been abusing you (I'm assuming by saying shitty things via text?) as an extension of this already traumatizing situation.
You will overcome this, and holding him to account is an intimidating but important goal.
A sex addict being a sex pest colour me shocked.
I'm so sorry this happened. I am pulling for you
Well done, I hope you kill him in court.
Why do you keep saying sexual abuse? Did someone sexually abuse you as a result of this, because if they did that’s absolutely terrible. But if it’s just your nudes being leaked calling it “sexual abuse” is laying it on a little thick especially when there are people who are actual victims of sexual abuse. And I remember you saying in a podcast that you grew up EXTREMELY WEALTHY. why are you trying to get other people to crowdfund your legal defense? Bet you won’t be sharing that bankroll when you win the case. This is how the rich stay rich bruv. You hard working minimum wage employee help me fund my legal issues by the sweat of your brow all because I wrote a salient article painting myself as a victim. And I the jobless trust fund baby will thank you as I buy a house with the fruits of said victory. Because the first step in fighting injustices is obviously to go seeking profit in the face of it
Sexual abuse is an umbrella term which will include all transgressions relating to sex. Revenge porn will be included in that. Being from a wealthy family doesnt mean she has access to a spare 10k. You seem incredibly spiteful and have ignored the clearly laid out actions Destiny took that ended with leaks of pxie's nudes. Why cant you hold him accountable?
Hey unhinged Ioser, how many people are you going to comment this same copy and pasted “whataboutism” remark to, pathetic tiny simp? I know this might be hard for some sub 40 lQ npc to understand… but someone having an opinion doesn’t justify them being victimized. Yikes, what a creepy weirdo.
Actions have consequences
If you commit a crime you should face the punishment for that crime
It’s really that simple man
I fully agree...except no criminal statutes were broken here 🤷
Sending someone’s nude photos without their consent is illegal in the US.
You didn’t even read the original post, she directly names the law that he broke. You need to get your reading comprehension up buddy
Bro Destiny told her that he'd pay for everything in her life for 300 years. Why do you think she's doing this for money xd
While I agree with some of what you're trying to put across I think your approach and language aren't very ... Shall we say... Rhetorically effective here. Or empathetic.
accurate username
As a Destiny fan I don't think your in the wrong for hurting him for this. He's not wrong that this isn't a big deal. (Just my opinion btw don't get mad) therefore you hurting his career isn't a big deal. And you can tell him that and say too bad you didn't care about me at the time you shared that. So I'm gonna share this.
Crazy every one of destiny's enemies and right wingers gets away with worse stuff. Destiny is gonna hate that but yea he's gonna be judged fairly for this one
You’re. And Destiny is a clandestine right winger, that’s why most of his collabs are with right wingers, that’s why he donates to the police. He has been hand picked by the right, to discredit liberals.
I mean I've been watching destiny for 8 years all those points are completely misunderstood by you.
he's not a right winger, he's just a bad person. he's amoral.
you're a fan of a predator.
Ya cause ur name definitely shows ur a rational person ur most likly a predator them him😂
How
Women are disproportionately affected by sex based violence, hence why you don't think this is a big deal. Whatever 4/10 ragebait.
That sentence doesn't even make sense. Why would that cause any difference in how somethings bad. Kids are disproportionately killed in school shootings in teachers you think people don't care about kids dying then?
Destiny was also leaked in this and i don't care that he was. When that's more rare. So how about it's just not a big deal until other people make a bid deal about it.
Jay walking is a crime, so what? If the leak hadnt happened, how bad would destiny sharing the nudes without consent be? To me it would be not that big of a deal, just one more person who has seen me naked, big woop. The problem is that it did get leaked, and now there is real harm which has been caused due to Destiny's actions. That is the issue. That being said, its hard for me to completely blame Destiny for it since he is also a victom of the leaks. Destiny clearly did something bad, but from his perspective (of someone who doesn't really care about nude leaks) its not that big of a deal. Obviosly from pxie's perspective it IS a big deal. There is nothing wrong with either perspective, its all personal opinion on whether something is or is not important. The aggresion isnt the sending of nude photos, it is the violation of pxie's consent. That is what is bad. Just how Destiny doesn't care about cheating, that doesnt mean his partners wont care about it, and to do so would be a violation of their trust and consent.
Basically its not a big deal, in this person perspective, to have nude pictures of yourself online, or shared with others (that is a personal opinion anyone can have). What we would all agree on is that the violation of trust and consent IS a big deal.
Pixie even agreed it wasn't a big deal at first in the logs destiny sent. There's not much reprocussion to it. I knew a girl in high school that got her sticking a screw driver in her leaked to the whole high school. She is doing just fine and I would never judge her for that. She had something terrible happen to her.
Destiny didn't share it to everyone he shared it to one person that got her account hacked. It's not like he purposefully showed it to everyone like the guy in my high school did.
It's not a big deal but neither is losing your youtube channel if your going to be this like uncaring about pixie. She is allowed to not care about destiny. But again he didn't mean for it to leak to everyone. So he's not evil just needs to grow.
Pls don't respond with soy
Severely? I already said the rest of what you said.
It's definitely bad idk what to compare it to. But you can't just say it is and expect me to agree. You can't fully judge him for what the hacker did.
He's a sick, sick man. He's talked about choking out his ex on stream. Groped a girl on camera who clearly was uncomfortable with it and asked him repeatedly to stop to no avail. Had sex with his ex-wife in the next room to her then 19 year old boyfriend while he was listening to it and coping to chat, Destiny was 30+ at the time and was visiting them because she was a fangirl who sent him lewds on instagram. Leaked nudes of a 16 year old girl to his chat. And defended another streamer for hooking up with under 18's and said it was natural to want to have sex with 14 year olds...
This is the guy you chose to have sex with, so a part of me is not sympathetic at all. But another part of me want you to bring him to justice in the harshest way possible. He is a proven and self-admitted abuser, predator and pedophile and he belongs behind bars.
Melina was in and open relationship why didn't you include that. You just made fun of a consensual scenario... aren't the others bad enough why add a lie??
Sounds like hasan piker fanbase nonsense there would be comp clips of this in every tankie twitter corner
Err, he has many times denounced hooking up with minors, idk what you're talking about with that one.
Gonna take a guess tho by your username that your entire statement is some kind of post-post-irony
jesus...when did all of this happen?!
Yesterday :/
"He's talked about choking out his ex on stream"
As far as I know, she was repeatedly physically abusive and he was trying to get her to stop.
"Groped a girl on camera who clearly was uncomfortable with it and asked him repeatedly to stop to no avail"
Yes, this was bad. He said it was bad. The person involved in this has said everything is fine now and she wishes people would stop bringing it up. It was also like 12 years ago.
"Had sex with his ex-wife in the next room to her then 19 year old boyfriend while he was listening to it and coping to chat,"
They were in an open relationship. She chose to leave him for Destiny. What part of this is Destiny's fault?
"Leaked nudes of a 16 year old girl to his chat"
They were not nudes. He was showing pictures of a girl in a bikini who was trying to hook up with him (yknow, someone he didn't do anything with because they were under 18). Stupid to share pictures at all, sure, but what you're claiming is wrong.
"And defended another streamer for hooking up with under 18's and said it was natural to want to have sex with 14 year olds"
I don't think this happened, or if it did, you're misinterpreting and misrepresenting what was said.
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Now, that out of the way, sharing someone else's nudes without consent is bad. Can we just stay with the truth, and say what we know he did do is bad, and he deserves repercussions for his behavior?